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From the spec it looks very similar:

BMW E30 M3
2 door coupe
195 hp (6750 rpm)
170 ft lbs (4600 rpm)
4cyl 2,302 cc displacement
6.9 seconds 0-62 mph (0-100kmh)
143 mph top speed
2,724 lbs weight lbs
$34,900 retail in U.S.

Subaru BRZ
2 door coupe
200 hp (7000 rpm)
150 ft lbs (6300 rpm)
4cyl 1,998 cc displacement
under 7 seconds 0-60 mph
143 mph top speed
2,690 lbs weight lbs
$25,000 (est) retail in U.S.
 

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You make a good point, the Subaru BRZ specifications are close to the BMW E30 M3 Specifications but I wouldn't call the BRZ the modern day E30 M3. After all the Subaru BRZ (aka Scion FR-S aka Toyota GT 86) is technically the modern day Toyota AE86.
 

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You make a good point, the Subaru BRZ specifications are close to the BMW E30 M3 Specifications but I wouldn't call the BRZ the modern day E30 M3. After all the Subaru BRZ (aka Scion FR-S aka Toyota GT 86) is technically the modern day Toyota AE86.
The BRZ/FRS/GT86 has the spirit of the old AE86 but not really a modern day version. I know I've had 2 AE86s one stock one lightly modified, they were fun but slow. Not to mention mechanically made by Subaru not Toyota.
 

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Just from price point alone, they're in totally different leagues. 35K back then is like 50K today. Sure they share similarities, but so do every other FR lightweight sports car. Even though they have similar power to weight ratios, it was more impressive in the E30 M3's era.
 

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Just from price point alone, they're in totally different leagues. 35K back then is like 50K today. Sure they share similarities, but so do every other FR lightweight sports car. Even though they have similar power to weight ratios, it was more impressive in the E30 M3's era.
It's more impressive that Subaru can make a car with performance of an old M3 but costing a lot less even with all the safety amenities like airbags of today. You would think with inflation the BRZ would cost $50K.
 

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Just from price point alone, they're in totally different leagues. 35K back then is like 50K today. Sure they share similarities, but so do every other FR lightweight sports car. Even though they have similar power to weight ratios, it was more impressive in the E30 M3's era.
Agree! Impressive back then, now... not so much.

It's more impressive that Subaru can make a car with performance of an old M3 but costing a lot less even with all the safety amenities like airbags of today. You would think with inflation the BRZ would cost $50K.
With today's expectations, the BRZ isn't out of this world impressive but it's acceptable for what it is. ATM it's pretty basic. Just look at all the other cars out right now that can be compared to the BRZ.
 

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Agree! Impressive back then, now... not so much.



With today's expectations, the BRZ isn't out of this world impressive but it's acceptable for what it is. ATM it's pretty basic. Just look at all the other cars out right now that can be compared to the BRZ.
I wouldn't compare any other cars today to the E30 M3, I just don't see any that's close.
 
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